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benedict
(ed.'s note: benedict is mhoram6910's handle @ Endless Shadows) King of Amber
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Chapter 1: Lord of Light
« Thread started on: Feb 14th, 2003, 08:26am »

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What a chapter! It starts off with Tak the Reincarnated Ape, Yama a Fallen God, bringing back Sam, or once Buddha. Ratri, a recently fallen goddess is also present. Yama, Ratri, and Tak want Sam to help them take down the Gods of the Celestial City, or at least thats how I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong.
Yama and Ratri give Sam time to walk by himself, and meditate. Once, while Tak is following Sam, he watches as Sam performs some ritual with a demon, or one of the original inhabitants of this planet before Man came from a Fallen Earth.
Back at the monastery, where Tak, Ratri, Sam, and Yama are, a beggar named Aram arrives. He has one eye. Aram inquires with the monks of the Buddhist Order theological theological questions, and reveals that he would like to speak with a scholar.
Yama appears, and reveals that it is not Aram, but Mara, the Dreamer, a great God. Mara is defeated, and killed without hope of reincarnation. The monks are troubled, and Yama has Sam give a sermon to them.
Sam does this, it was quite a speech, that I'd rather not get into... After the speech, Ratri, Yama, Sam, and Tak leave the monastery to go to a Palace far away. They are on quest!


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duchess of malfi
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Re: Chapter 1: Lord of Light
« Reply #1 on: Feb 14th, 2003, 11:32am »

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I'm not sure I'd call their destination a palace!

You summed up things well, I have to say I am enjoying the book -- Zelazny is quite witty, especially the bits where they are discussing their (ahem) destination.

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benedict
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Re: Chapter 1: Lord of Light
« Reply #2 on: Feb 14th, 2003, 3:11pm »

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Where was their destination again? I can't remember..
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danlo
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Re: Chapter 1: Lord of Light
« Reply #3 on: Today at 3:23pm »

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I just got back in2 Lord of Light and am very impressed by Zelazny's style. His use of language, differing POVs and humor r very different than Amber and very rewarding.

A "pleasure palace" the Place of Kama in Khaipur.

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"The Fornicatorium, madam?"
She frowned, "As such it is often known to the vulgar, and do not call me madam in the same breath-it smacks of an ancient jest..."
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Who would ever think to look for the Buddah in a whorehouse?
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His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god. He preferred to drop the Maha- and the- atman, however, and called himself Sam.

danlo
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Re: Chapter 1: Lord of Light
« Reply #7 on: Feb 16th, 2003, 9:25pm »

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I looked at the 'Death-God's, or Yama's, pray-machine as more of a radio telescope (like those at the VLA) than just a short wave. Yes those 'energy creatures' are wild--I would like to know some more about them...they seem like an unknowable native species of the planet. Sam gambles with their essences in order to affirm his new existence on the mortal plane.

The monks even talk about ahimsa with 'Aram' how cool!! True, Mara is an Elightened One and speaks of the Dreamer but he, instead, is Lord of Illusion--they sent him as a spy--they suspect and are getting closer, time to move...Tak is so cool!



benedict
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Re: Chapter 1: Lord of Light
« Reply #8 on: Feb 17th, 2003, 08:56am »

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And Sam used the demons on his last attack. Who did he attack last, again?

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And now Danlo looked in that direction, too. He remembered that snowy owls mate in the darkest part of deep winter, and so along with this beautiful white bird perched in a tree a hundred feet away, he turned to face the sea as he watched and waited.

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Ur now free 2 move about the country! Actually if u r now, or have read Lord of Light fell free 2 comment, and join the Group Read on this thread and the Duchesess' LofL Chapter 2 thread... And now Danlo looked in that direction, too. He remembered that snowy owls mate in the darkest part of deep winter, and so along with this beautiful white bird perched in a tree a hundred feet away, he turned to face the sea as he watched and waited.

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Just started this book yesterday. It's definitely weird as hell in the beginning, but once it gets going, it's really good. I can't wait to find out what the hell is really going on.

It's odd that the first chapter is so long. All I've read from Zelazny is the first Amber chronicles. Those books had pretty quick chapter, ranging from maybe 8-15 pages. The first chapter of this book had a whopping 41 pages. I'm like, what, is this Steven Erikson, or something? And the second chapter is 41 pages, too.

I got a chance to start on a reread last night. I am now going to chase after FarmUrTed.

The thing that sticks out in my mind in this read is all of the sly little jokes and humorous bits Zelazny slips into the text. The Palace which is really a brothel, and the Goddess objecting to Madam. Sam only responding to Sam when he wakes up in his new body, and not all of those high falutin' titles. The gambling between Sam and the Demons.