The mage among the Crimson Guard attempts to explain warrens to Seren. It seems as if she might be a natural practitioner of one called Mockra, which manipulates peoples' minds. She asks if the mage can help her with the emotional trauma from the rape. He recommends a massive emotional release all at once...
The Sengar matriarch wishes to speak with the rulers of the demon relam. In order to do this, she must sacrifice a demon - and chooses the one that is friends with Trull - or so the demon tells Trull. So Trull frees it by binding it to himself. This infuriates hsi mother, who tells him that the deomn has lied, and she wants him to bring it back and punish it. This he refuses to do. Rhulad wants the service of demon warriors, and in return will divert a river from one world to another to create a great flood which will help the demons in their own warfare.
Rhulad tells Udinaas that the Edur must seek out send out ships to champions from other peoples - to kill Rhulad over and over again so he can keep gaining in power.
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