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 Post subject: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:00 pm 
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People are still dying in Darfur. Millions are not receiving adequate food. Why aren't more people angry about the situation? Why isn't more being done? Are you personally aware of the situation and latest news there?

ajws.org/index.cfm?sectio...age_id=598
www.savedarfur.org/situation/current

Savedarfur.org and the American Jewish World Service are sponsoring a rally in NY next month to draw attention to the situation in Darfur. I will not be able to go, unfortunately, but my son plans to be there.

What are your thoughts? What do you think can be done to help the people of Darfur? "Does the walker choose the path, or the path the walker?"<i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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If your question is for answer of analysis, IMO, the reasons are the same as the they were for the first world's ignorance and lack of action regarding the Hutu vs Tutsi civil war in Rwanda. BTW, the world continues to ignore the Tamil vs Sinhalese conflict, unless the Fighting Tigers blow up the Indian Prime Minister, in Sri Lanka, and that conflict has been ongoing for at least 35 yrs. And what about years of official bloody and violent oppresion, experiences by the East Timorese at the hands of the Indonesian authorities. taraswizard
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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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The situation in Darfur is spilling out into the neighboring countries, such as Chad, and they are begging for help. Why so much attention to the recent Middle Eastern conflict and so little for the Darfur crisis, which has killed and endangered so many more people??? ******************************************************

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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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Quote:The situation in Darfur is spilling out into the neighboring countries, such as Chad, and they are begging for help. Why so much attention to the recent Middle Eastern conflict and so little for the Darfur crisis, which has killed and endangered so many more people???

Exactly my point, Duchess.

Your point is well-taken, too, taraswizard.

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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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It's the old adage...No one cares about Africa. <i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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Right. After all, it's only black people there.

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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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Unfortunately, you're exactly correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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Hey Cail.

Yeah, Darfur doesn't have anything that the western world wants. Nothing to gain from going in and doing anything, so why make the expenditure.

Only goes to demonstrate what a mockery the purported dedication to democracy and human rights are in most countries.

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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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It begs the question I've asked before though. At what point does "help" become "interference"? Darfur is, for all intents and purposes, in the middle of a civil war. Is it the UN's job to end civil wars? I mean, I'm with you that what's going on there is horrible, but is it the job of the world to get involved with other country's internal issues (no matter how hottible they are)?

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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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Don't watch Hotel Rwanda and then start thinking about all this stuff... *****
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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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I think the world has an obligation to interfere in order to stop a genocide from continuing.

And, yes, Hotel Rwanda has a lesson to teach with regard to what is happening in Darfur. "Does the walker choose the path, or the path the walker?"<i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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Both international and American law requires that action is taken in cases of genocide.

(Damn, I really feel sorry for the poor whipping boy UN. Nobody is willing to give it the power to carry out its mandate, and when it doesn't, everybody points out how useless it is.)

But Cail does have a point. And it's one that I would agree with in almost all instances. Look what inevitably happens when one country gets involved in the internal politics of another.

I have a sneaking suspicion that this would be another case of "damned if you do...damned if you don't."

That said though, in cases of genocide I think better to be damned for doing. Then at least you can point to the lives that you saved. (Of course, if you are doing, then you better be saving lives.)

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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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That's exactly the issue Av. When we interfere, we take the chance of creating the messes we've created before in the ME, in Africa, and in South America.

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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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On the other hand, the careful international intervention in the Balkans did eventually calm things down there, and unquestionably saved a lot of lives.

I think part of the intervention is how it is done, as well as by whom it is done. Broad international coalitions seem to work better than the forces of just one country; broad strong international support seems to work better, as well.
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 Post subject: Re: Why isn't there more attention on Darfur?
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Very valid point. <i></i>


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