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 Post subject: Re: Foundation
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 10:25 pm 
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I didn't know it was even made into a movie. It would be quite hard to capture the feeling of the movie I would think.
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 Post subject: Re: Foundation
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It's interesting in itself, but really nothing @ all like the book--the concept of the coming darkness is cool and the 2 main characters r cool but 1 cult vs the other is the only real conflict we get and the rest is real cheesy Raiders of the Lost Ark ripoff... There was so much going on in the story that even though the cults and churches had a big underlying influence--trying 2 find ways 2 survive and the "dipolmatic intrigue" of the cocktail party like atmosphere (found no where in the movie, btw) was what I really enjoyed... I quickly flushed the whole book from my mind in the beginning, King, and just pretended it was a completely dif story...maybe that's y it was cooler 2 me than 2 u...The scenes w/William Hurt were about the truest 2 the book--most of the other scenes in the movie I don't really even remember being in the book, novella, what have u... The power of ahimsa is not just the readiness to die. It is the willingness to live. To live utterly without fear - this is a fearsome thing. <i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Foundation
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HTML Comments are not allowed Arise now, Riders of Théoden!Let horse be bridled, horn be sounded!Forth Eorlingas!<i>Edited by: danlo60 at: 3/28/04 9:00 am
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 Post subject: Just great
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My answer

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It's a good thing u didn't make ur name Ahir-ass Hangar, then I'd really b insulted! And now Danlo looked in that direction, too. He remembered that snowy owls mate in the darkest part of deep winter, and so along with this beautiful white bird perched in a tree a hundred feet away, he turned to face the sea as he watched and waited.

Ahira, Ahira, he called out silently to the sky. Ahira, Ahira<i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Assimov-Foundation
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OK, since this thread seems to be on comments to Asimov in general. Well, for my class we are reading The Gods Themselves. Which lots of you seem to like.

Well, to be little contrarian, but...What could he have been thinking about? The whole middle section, sheeesh. OK, I get it melting is sex between the Rational, Parental, and the Emotional. But they go on, on , and on, and on and on about it. yak, yak, yak, yak.. SHUT UP!! I think I would have expected more. Did this really need a whole book, the Free Electron Pump and put in context of the 1970s "Energy crisis" (well I remember cause I was there). OK...and there will be no "Free Electron Pumps" with fixes from alternate universes, OK I get that, too.

Maybe I am being to hard on this. taraswizard
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 Post subject: Asimov
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TW, I don't think you're being too hard. I think Asimov was a genius, but I've never really understood all the fuss about The Gods Themselves.

He wrote two of the greatest series in SF history, and then combined them with the brilliant Prelude to Foundation.

Whiff of Death & The End of Eternity are both great SF mysteries.
Bicentennial Man is great.
The Azazel stories are great.
And then there's my personal favourite, Murder at the ABA.

There's a lot of Asimov out there I prefer to The Gods Themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: Asimov
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My favourite Asmiov has to be The Caves of Steel. I prefer his robotic dectective series to Foundation, and think Caves is the best of these. <i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Asimov (Gods Themselves, funny story)
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My class instructor in addition to her academic interest in SF has been a fan for many years, too. And has accumulated some amusing anecdotes, and here is one about the novel The Gods Themselves

Seemed Robert Silverberg at a SF Con made the comment that fans were very scientifically sophisticated and were to sophisticated and aware to accept an SF story that contained a complete scientific implausibility, for example, the tungsten/plutonium 186 circumstance that forms one of the cornerstones of the novel.

Poor, Bob Silverberg his statements do have a way of haunting him in a sorta vicous manner. Example, his statements regarding the identity of the author James Tiptree, Jr. taraswizard
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 Post subject: Re: Assimov-Foundation
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One of the great things about the Foundation trilogy is the scope of time. Decades/centuries go by, with math predicting the course of billions of human lives. Until a certain mutant comes along anyway. :wink: 8)

Given this day and age where thousand plus page long books are all the rage in the science fiction/fantasy genre, it is amazing to me how much story and plot the old time masters like Asimov, Clarke, and Zelazny could pack into a "mere" 200-300 pages. :lol:

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