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| Author: | jacobRaver [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Human |
Maybe I have a bad memory. I can't remember, but... ...what's a human? or, what's the difference? Why is Paul human but others not? |
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| Author: | Avatar [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
Well, according to the test IIRC, the human was the one who could think ahead, and endure to acheive an eventual goal. It wasn't that nobody else was...it was that they had to make sure Paul was before they dared continue his training. Welcome to Planetfall:Arrakis btw. Be good to get some life back into these threads. (Stop pointing fingers at me everybody else.  )--A |
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| Author: | jacobRaver [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
Tx. Okay. Paul's a Human. So, who's not? And what are they? Are we talking Mentat? |
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| Author: | Avatar [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
Not necssarily. Afterall, Jessica, (and every BG) passed the Gom Jabbar, and she's not a mentat. No, I think they're just people who are more "evolved" in a sense...people who can override the biological hardwiring. --A |
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| Author: | jacobRaver [ Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
? You mean he doesn't explain it further in the other books? Seems pretty important. |
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| Author: | Duchess of Malfi [ Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
I do not think it is ever further explained than what is there in the first few chapters of Dune??? (Correct me if I am wrong, Av!) 
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| Author: | Avatar [ Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
Not that I remember...will check my Dune encyclopedia if I can find it...  --A |
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| Author: | Moonwatcher [ Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
| Author: | Avatar [ Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
 That was more a reflection on me for not doing more to stimulate it than an accusation of blame-casting MM. --A |
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| Author: | jacobRaver [ Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
Being 'human': the Rev Mother tested Paul with the Gom Jabbar to see if he was 'human'. Herbert mentions this concept one more time, I believe, but never eludes to how it impacts anything further or what a non-human might be. I assumed he was pointing towards Mentat's, which seem to be humans bread their whole lives to become supercomputers, hence the Baron's thoughts about Piter in the second chapter. It might also be eluding to the Bene Gesserit higherups racism/elitism towards anyone who doesn't have their self-control, which is trained standard BG fair. |
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| Author: | Avatar [ Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Human |
But not all BG are mentats, (not even most), while we can probably safely assume that they are human. (The idea always appealed to me in an elitest sorta way... )--A |
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